a perfect calculation to that. the problem with the afghan government and people is they lack certainty, they look confidence. they're terrified by 2014, not because there's been no progress, but because they're afraid they'll lose that progress. in 199, they turned their back on the region. i think what they need to see from america is enough engagement to show that we are not going to abandon them. >> i went to ask president karzai. i wantmen business here to be making a profit, because if you were here and making a profit, then you'll have a stake in our security. i think that's one kind of indicator. i think it l probably be necessary us -- it's time for them to protect their sovereignty for the most part and so we have got to figure out how best to do that. >> joe hadden a number? >> i have said 10,000 to 15,000 and let me give you a sense of what that comprises. >> number one training. no one can prothen finally, our we have got a sufficient to print and basic structure to do that. >> but this is correct. just the way it laid out here, everyone else in the neighborhood is looking,

against the most defenseless. the question is does government have the obligation to protect those children? i believe we do. i believe we do. >> a quick question on this. i want to ask on a couple other subjects. could you see your way clear to a school security program or to saying listen, i think there maybe be arm guards at some of the schools? >> of course. one-third of the schools in america today have school guards. there were two at columbine. they couldn't get to the shooter. and that is the problem with this thing. having school guards really isn't the whole answer. the more you have these weapons, these military style weapons that with the single stock of the ar-15 can be made fully automatic, the minute you have it in the sandy hook killer's hands, have youyou have a devas weapon. >> it is now bubbling up. i'm surprised the speaker of the house, president of the united states, we're very close to an immigration bill. give me a sense of where the senate is on that? where congress is on the immigration bill? >> my understanding from senator schumer, we will have a stateme

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